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man of aran's avatar

Happiness is unreliable. Seek what is meaningful, not happiness. Happiness will more likely follow but if it doesn’t, you will still have what is meaningful.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

True, Alan, but does that presuppose that what’s meaningful never changes for an individual? If what’s meaningful does change, then how is chasing the meaningful different from chasing happiness?

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man of aran's avatar

Good question, Paul. Forced me to think through it. Not sure if I succeeded. I think when we figure out what is meaningful for ourselves, we intend it to be permanent. We are willing to sacrifice for it. It entails responsibility. It is high on our hierarchy of values. We know it is 'true' or has value independent of our personal satisfaction and we don't make it conditional on whether or not it makes us happy, then give up when it doesn't. If we do, then the thing wasn't very meaningful, was it? Like a fair weather friendship. At the same time, a change of a kind might be necessary due to forces beyond our control, despite our intentions. A crisis of faith, so to speak. One is dedicated to a truth, not for its utility, but because of its transcendent significance. It might be in God, marriage / family, friendship, art, 'social justice' one's country, what have you. Then a force comes along and destroys it, tries to remove the meaning it once held. Any one of those, you might have stood up for, sacrificed, suffered, even paid the ultimate price, but the particular instantiation of it is gone, the friend betrays, the talent is lost, God forsakes as he is wont to do, one's government is irredeemably corrupt etc. These happen, but if it is meaningful, one still believes in friendship, the reality of a higher power, the potential of one's country etc. That's what ultimately sustains, not the happiness you might have had along the way. I suppose if I consider this semantically, I want to say that 'happiness' is subjectively determined, always relative, while meaning is objective, out there, with an absolute significance. With that in mind, the latter might bring happiness, but is still around if it does not. Which means, yes, I would agree, simply changing what is meaningful, as you ask, would be to render it a purely subjective thing, offering no transcendence, and not really different from 'happiness'. Sorry to go on and on, but I hope this makes some sense.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

I’m inclined to agree with you, Alan, from the standpoint that one tends to be happier the more meaningful one finds life to be.

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Grace Drigo's avatar

Happiness, like any other emotion, is just a moment in time.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

And no moment can last forever. Thank you, Grace!

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Grace Drigo's avatar

So glad this is true! 💕

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Teàrlach's avatar

If you keep the search going internally then one can inch closer and closer. It’s not out there.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

I think that’s true, Charles. It also seems to be something we keep inventing obstacles to prevent us from achieving.

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Teàrlach's avatar

It’s something I’ve been working on for decades.

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Teyani Whitman's avatar

The ultimate questions. And at the same time, the ones that never catch us as they fly by…

The question “why” rarely has answers (except regarding gravity). It is a poor question to be sure.

In order to find what “it” is, we must ask the better questions… something like. “What is the thought I must remove to be content?” Or “what action could I take to move me a bit closer to happiness?” And then, perhaps.. what is preventing me from doing those? Often times fear shows its ugly face.

An excellent, thought evoking poem Paul.

And in the spirit of asking outrageous questions, Can one request a poem?

Maybe beginning with Do I dare…..

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Wow! Great response, Teyani!

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Teyani Whitman's avatar

Ps… thanks for the inspiration you offered in this poem.. I just wrote a post about “Why”

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Martin Mc Carthy's avatar

This poem has a powerful ending and everything leads to that and totally depends upon it being just right, and you've nailed it. Nice work!

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thank you, Martin.

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Daniel Appleton's avatar

WHY ? Because we don't know HOW to SEARCH, or at least do " better ", OR some dark, Stygian reptilian part of us subconsciously enjoys slipping & falling on our keisters, possibly.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thanks for your thoughts on this, Daniel.

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Daniel Appleton's avatar

As a student - practitioner of Zen AND Sufism, these subjects are ones I meditate on with a certain degree of regularity.

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Joshua Nearly's avatar

I try to imagine happiness. To wander in its presence. To feel its warmth. To know its shelter and shade. It’s usually aspirational, but sometimes, and usually accidentally, it arrives as a gift from another. Last night held one those moments… it felt simultaneously old, and ancient, and childlike, and fleeting. We know… it’s a gift, borne by others, and is the most precious thing. We don’t find it, now and again, it finds us, in spite of everything, and smiles. I hope it finds you, even if only for a moment… I hope it does.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thanks for your thoughts on this, Joshua

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Wendy Martin's avatar

The importance of living in the moment.

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Anu Prabhala's avatar

We are happy and perfect, Paul. But we have to learn to listen to that part of us that’s NOT our mind or intellect *to continue* to be happy. In other words, we have to uncondition ourselves from the layers wrapped around us by our thoughts, emotions, all those reactive moments in life and listen to our inner wise guide. Then, we will relish the neutral state of our Self we were born with and before we started overthinking. Happiness is in being in a neutral state to the world:) Vedanta calls it “sakshi” or the witnessing consciousness.

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Forrest Beway's avatar

what can always be... what we are... accept what we are... love what we are... even if we don't know what we are... thank you Paul for your overwhelming beauty always

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thank you for your comment, Forrest

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Patris's avatar

Could this be the very reason poems are written? playing hide and seek a gift - and a curse - by some jealous god

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Reena Kapoor's avatar

We know how to be happy. Happy is not same as a life of pleasure or hedonism. A deep happiness is freeing and it comes from work of meaning + having gratitude + not giving pain so much importance by holding it or suppressing it. It really is something we can resolve to: just do it.

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thank you, Reena—I think the closing words to your comment say it all: just do it!

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LeeAnn Pickrell's avatar

Simple yet so hard

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thank you, LeeAnn

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Manuel A. Garcia's avatar

Truth...

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Thanks, Manuel

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Geraldine A. V. Hughes's avatar

Nice

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Geraldine A. V. Hughes's avatar

Perhaps it could be we love our dis-ease, it’s familiar territory?

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Paul Wittenberger's avatar

Familiar as in comfortable? Perhaps we’re required to risk something of ourselves for the sake of happiness?

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Geraldine A. V. Hughes's avatar

Yup, skin in the game!

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